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		<title>By: Evil Entrepreneurs &#8211; Or A Force For Good &#124; Business Success Factory &#124; Internet Marketing &#124; Internet Marketing Training</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Entrepreneurs &#8211; Or A Force For Good &#124; Business Success Factory &#124; Internet Marketing &#124; Internet Marketing Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From Nicola: Wealth Coach Diaries&#8221; for the other mention&#8230;.it is with many thanks to Yanik Silver for posting this inspirational and moving video about entrepreneurialism, on his blog.  This [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great post Yanik. I really don&#039;t know why some people think that people who have lots of money should not. I think opportunities of life are there for everyone it all boils down to how hard are you willing to work to get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great post Yanik. I really don&#8217;t know why some people think that people who have lots of money should not. I think opportunities of life are there for everyone it all boils down to how hard are you willing to work to get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Atlas Shrugged</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atlas Shrugged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 05:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a huge fan of Ayn Rand&#039;s work, and the objectivist philosophy.  Free markets, and free will lead to growth and prosperity.  More government and regulation leads to less growth and prosperity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of Ayn Rand&#8217;s work, and the objectivist philosophy.  Free markets, and free will lead to growth and prosperity.  More government and regulation leads to less growth and prosperity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Stanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yanik: I have been reading your emails for some time and saving up to treat myself one day soon to one of your advanced courses. One can sense, to some small degree, where a person&#039;s heart is by seeing where their mind is. It was evident your style and approach to business appealed to me, and today I felt instant friendship. Shrugged has long been my mental cornerstone of capitalist superiority thinking because it made clear those who were looters, non-thinkers, takers were the heart of the problems in society. Unlike men of the mind who sought to increase themselves and in doing so pull up those around them. Not pick them up, but rather inspire them to act in kind and better themselves as well. Jon Butcher&#039;s commentary struck a chord with me. In spite of the argument that we must have government and socialism in tandem with capitalism, I think the balance is tremendously out of whack. 

We were warned at the foundation of this country that an intrusive government was to be avoided at all cost. But we&#039;ve let the writings of our forefathers fade into irrelevance with society supporting a rapidly growing government increasing confiscatory tax policies every year. We&#039;ve known even longer that charity begins at home. But, what we&#039;ve forgotten as a nation is that it is not the place of an intellectual or a body politic to dictate what measure and to what cause our charity will manifest itself. 

The challenge will ever be one segment of society trying to dictate just how compassionate the haves ought to be towards the have nots. All the while the answer lies in education and how pitifully little the entitlement mindset thirsts for it. Thanks to you and Jon for bringing some fresh discourse to the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yanik: I have been reading your emails for some time and saving up to treat myself one day soon to one of your advanced courses. One can sense, to some small degree, where a person&#8217;s heart is by seeing where their mind is. It was evident your style and approach to business appealed to me, and today I felt instant friendship. Shrugged has long been my mental cornerstone of capitalist superiority thinking because it made clear those who were looters, non-thinkers, takers were the heart of the problems in society. Unlike men of the mind who sought to increase themselves and in doing so pull up those around them. Not pick them up, but rather inspire them to act in kind and better themselves as well. Jon Butcher&#8217;s commentary struck a chord with me. In spite of the argument that we must have government and socialism in tandem with capitalism, I think the balance is tremendously out of whack. </p>
<p>We were warned at the foundation of this country that an intrusive government was to be avoided at all cost. But we&#8217;ve let the writings of our forefathers fade into irrelevance with society supporting a rapidly growing government increasing confiscatory tax policies every year. We&#8217;ve known even longer that charity begins at home. But, what we&#8217;ve forgotten as a nation is that it is not the place of an intellectual or a body politic to dictate what measure and to what cause our charity will manifest itself. </p>
<p>The challenge will ever be one segment of society trying to dictate just how compassionate the haves ought to be towards the have nots. All the while the answer lies in education and how pitifully little the entitlement mindset thirsts for it. Thanks to you and Jon for bringing some fresh discourse to the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Clyo Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clyo Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Shakespeare wrote, &quot;Nothing is right or wrong, but thinking makes it so.&quot;

Yet I sense more than a little insecurity in all these protestations of how much good business does. Remember that painting a picture of business as &quot;all good&quot; is just as much of a lie as painting it as all bad. 

Also remember that business has been responsible for enslaving children, breaking heads as it broke unions, and that, historically, businesses have polluted and chose profits and self-interest over the common good.

While I applaud the idea of the compassionate entrepreneur and am, myself, dedicated to being one, that is not the history of capitalism nor its current identity. Business has earned its villification.

Check out these facts and then change the model by good works, by all means. But me thinks thou protesteth just a bit too much.

http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

P.S. Can you say that the business of making landmines benefits humanity and is a positive for society? 

While I see no &quot;sin&quot; in making money, note that every 3.6 seconds someone dies of starvation. 

One in eight children under twelve in the U.S. goes to bed hungry. 

Will your becoming an Internet millionaire put an end to it?

And here&#039;s another fact, just for the heck of it:

The amount of money we spend collectively on perfume in the U.S. and the European Union is enough to solve the sanitation problems of the world AND end starvation. 

The &quot;trickle down&quot; economy doesn&#039;t work, else these stats would be history, not current reality.

So, fine - let&#039;s make our fortunes. But business is not a Messiah that has  solved the worlds problems. It could, but it hasn&#039;t.

The laws under which corporations operate actually make it a breach of fiscal duty to fail to take action that maximizes shareholder profits, even if it means shipping jobs overseas and throwing families into poverty as a result. 

So I agree, we do need a new business model that incorporates compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Shakespeare wrote, &#8220;Nothing is right or wrong, but thinking makes it so.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet I sense more than a little insecurity in all these protestations of how much good business does. Remember that painting a picture of business as &#8220;all good&#8221; is just as much of a lie as painting it as all bad. </p>
<p>Also remember that business has been responsible for enslaving children, breaking heads as it broke unions, and that, historically, businesses have polluted and chose profits and self-interest over the common good.</p>
<p>While I applaud the idea of the compassionate entrepreneur and am, myself, dedicated to being one, that is not the history of capitalism nor its current identity. Business has earned its villification.</p>
<p>Check out these facts and then change the model by good works, by all means. But me thinks thou protesteth just a bit too much.</p>
<p><a href="http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm" rel="nofollow">http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm</a></p>
<p>P.S. Can you say that the business of making landmines benefits humanity and is a positive for society? </p>
<p>While I see no &#8220;sin&#8221; in making money, note that every 3.6 seconds someone dies of starvation. </p>
<p>One in eight children under twelve in the U.S. goes to bed hungry. </p>
<p>Will your becoming an Internet millionaire put an end to it?</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s another fact, just for the heck of it:</p>
<p>The amount of money we spend collectively on perfume in the U.S. and the European Union is enough to solve the sanitation problems of the world AND end starvation. </p>
<p>The &#8220;trickle down&#8221; economy doesn&#8217;t work, else these stats would be history, not current reality.</p>
<p>So, fine &#8211; let&#8217;s make our fortunes. But business is not a Messiah that has  solved the worlds problems. It could, but it hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The laws under which corporations operate actually make it a breach of fiscal duty to fail to take action that maximizes shareholder profits, even if it means shipping jobs overseas and throwing families into poverty as a result. </p>
<p>So I agree, we do need a new business model that incorporates compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Yanik,

Another nice post showing a different view on things. I see my way of &quot;giving back&quot; by providing a LOT of quality free content through my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.Ray-Johnson.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet Marketing Blog&lt;/a&gt;. OR even through products that are totally free like my latest one.

Thanks
Ray Johnson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Yanik,</p>
<p>Another nice post showing a different view on things. I see my way of &#8220;giving back&#8221; by providing a LOT of quality free content through my <a href="http://www.Ray-Johnson.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Internet Marketing Blog</a>. OR even through products that are totally free like my latest one.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Ray Johnson</p>
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		<title>By: Forbesfeeds Personal Finance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forbesfeeds Personal Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great quote on money comes from David Bach:  &quot;Financial education needs to become a part of our national curriculum and scoring systems so that it’s not just the rich kids that learn about money.. it’s all of us.&quot;  Teaching our children what makes sense money-wise is critical to achieving the living standards we all want to achieve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great quote on money comes from David Bach:  &#8220;Financial education needs to become a part of our national curriculum and scoring systems so that it’s not just the rich kids that learn about money.. it’s all of us.&#8221;  Teaching our children what makes sense money-wise is critical to achieving the living standards we all want to achieve.</p>
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		<title>By: Martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yanik,

South Africa is BANNED from VEOH as are 165 other countries and they have been accused of racism in the extreme.  I&#039;ll be back in the UK next month so will schedule to watch the video at that time.

As a professional I know you will be dismayed to discover you are associated with such a negative organisation, let alone the limit it places on your scope.

Anyone else finding themselves blocked may take comfort in this rebuttal (fake) interview with the founder:-

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5qjbx_veoh-excludes-85-of-the-world_news</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yanik,</p>
<p>South Africa is BANNED from VEOH as are 165 other countries and they have been accused of racism in the extreme.  I&#8217;ll be back in the UK next month so will schedule to watch the video at that time.</p>
<p>As a professional I know you will be dismayed to discover you are associated with such a negative organisation, let alone the limit it places on your scope.</p>
<p>Anyone else finding themselves blocked may take comfort in this rebuttal (fake) interview with the founder:-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5qjbx_veoh-excludes-85-of-the-world_news" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5qjbx_veoh-excludes-85-of-the-world_news</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chad Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Yanik,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that a good example of the common assumption that productive businessman are immoral is the use of the phrase &quot;giving back&quot; to describe charitable giving by people who have made money.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Jon has aptly pointed out, a person who has created wealth has already been more moral and has contributed more to society than any amount of charitable giving could ever accomplish. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The phrase &quot;giving back&quot; assumes the premise that, by being productive, an entrepreneur has taken something from society, and now has the burden/obligation to give something back.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I urge everyone here who respects entrepreneurship and productivity, and who, like Jon, wishes to encourage the best in humanity, to never use that phrase, and to correct others every time we hear it being used.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you admire people who produce the wealth that brings us such a wonderful world to live in, please insist that no one use the degrading phrase &quot;giving back&quot; to describe a successful person who is contributing to a charitable cause.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Instead, perhaps &quot;giving forward&quot; would be a more accurate description.  I personally love giving to causes that are meaningful to me.  For example, speaking of Ayn Rand, every year for the past 6 years, I have given several thousands of dollars of free classroom sets of Ayn Rand&#039;s books to high school teachers who request them through this charity: http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=support_free_books.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am proud of being able to contribute to a cause I believe in, and I hope that it improves the future of the world.  However I cringe whenever someone mentions &quot;giving back,&quot; as it makes me feel like they&#039;ve just personally insulted me and my value as an entrepreneur. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yanik, I challenge you to be on the forefront of this movement by having the &quot;giving back&quot; portion of our Maverick events renamed &quot;giving forward,&quot; or some other term that is respectful of the moral accomplishment we have made by producing the wealth we have created. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Jon ably points out, the stakes are high, and we must not concede in any way the common, but wrong, premise that we are acting immorally when we produce wealth.  We must show the world, and especially the future entrepreneurs we aim to inspire, that we value productive activity of ourselves and others, and we consider it to be a *moral* virtue, and definitely not a vice.&lt;/p&gt;

* Wow! Interesting point. Well taken. I like that term &#039;Giving Forward&quot;. I will definitely consider using that for Maverick. Thanks for the additional insight. * - Y.S.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Yanik,</p>
<p>I think that a good example of the common assumption that productive businessman are immoral is the use of the phrase &#8220;giving back&#8221; to describe charitable giving by people who have made money.  </p>
<p>As Jon has aptly pointed out, a person who has created wealth has already been more moral and has contributed more to society than any amount of charitable giving could ever accomplish. </p>
<p>The phrase &#8220;giving back&#8221; assumes the premise that, by being productive, an entrepreneur has taken something from society, and now has the burden/obligation to give something back.  </p>
<p>I urge everyone here who respects entrepreneurship and productivity, and who, like Jon, wishes to encourage the best in humanity, to never use that phrase, and to correct others every time we hear it being used.  </p>
<p>If you admire people who produce the wealth that brings us such a wonderful world to live in, please insist that no one use the degrading phrase &#8220;giving back&#8221; to describe a successful person who is contributing to a charitable cause.  </p>
<p>Instead, perhaps &#8220;giving forward&#8221; would be a more accurate description.  I personally love giving to causes that are meaningful to me.  For example, speaking of Ayn Rand, every year for the past 6 years, I have given several thousands of dollars of free classroom sets of Ayn Rand&#8217;s books to high school teachers who request them through this charity: <a href="http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=support_free_books" rel="nofollow">http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=support_free_books</a>.  </p>
<p>I am proud of being able to contribute to a cause I believe in, and I hope that it improves the future of the world.  However I cringe whenever someone mentions &#8220;giving back,&#8221; as it makes me feel like they&#8217;ve just personally insulted me and my value as an entrepreneur. </p>
<p>Yanik, I challenge you to be on the forefront of this movement by having the &#8220;giving back&#8221; portion of our Maverick events renamed &#8220;giving forward,&#8221; or some other term that is respectful of the moral accomplishment we have made by producing the wealth we have created. </p>
<p>As Jon ably points out, the stakes are high, and we must not concede in any way the common, but wrong, premise that we are acting immorally when we produce wealth.  We must show the world, and especially the future entrepreneurs we aim to inspire, that we value productive activity of ourselves and others, and we consider it to be a *moral* virtue, and definitely not a vice.</p>
<p>* Wow! Interesting point. Well taken. I like that term &#8216;Giving Forward&#8221;. I will definitely consider using that for Maverick. Thanks for the additional insight. * &#8211; Y.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Dunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised by the number of comments that have been left regarding this video. It was a powerful 15 minutes. I have forwarded it to all of my clients and most of the fellow entrepreneurs that I have in my database. Outstanding stuff. 

It&#039;s time that we acknowledged ourselves for what we are really up to in life. I&#039;m glad that someone finally gave voice to this marriage of business and spirit that we enjoy, but most of us don&#039;t have words to express. 

Thank you Yanik, and thank you Jon!

Much Love,

Josh Dunn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised by the number of comments that have been left regarding this video. It was a powerful 15 minutes. I have forwarded it to all of my clients and most of the fellow entrepreneurs that I have in my database. Outstanding stuff. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time that we acknowledged ourselves for what we are really up to in life. I&#8217;m glad that someone finally gave voice to this marriage of business and spirit that we enjoy, but most of us don&#8217;t have words to express. </p>
<p>Thank you Yanik, and thank you Jon!</p>
<p>Much Love,</p>
<p>Josh Dunn</p>
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